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Subject: ZTI and Driver issue
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02/08/2008 3:26 AM  

I spent a long time in searching an solution for my problem. I found a couple of entries in some communities but nothing really helps. My problem is that we have HP dc7600 PCs in our company. This PC has a Realtek High Definition Audio device onboard. I added the driver from the HP download page to Out-Of-Box Drivers in Microsoft Deployment. Copied to ZTI_DRIVER_SOURCE and to SMS 2003. After installing Vista with ZTI the Realtek driver was not installed. The Microsoft High Definition Driver was installed and didn´t work with the device. The Realtek driver is newer like the driver by Microsoft. Other driver I added was installed so I think the technology I used is o.k.

Is it possible to force to install the 3rd party driver in ZTI Installation?

Thanks ... Didi

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02/08/2008 6:38 AM  
My temp solution is that the driver is also to install via a setup.exe. Now I add the driver as an application with the commandline: setup.exe /s /v/qn/noreboot. In the tasksequences I made a WMI-query for the model %dc7600%. Does anyone know a better solution such as force a 3rd party driver. I don´t want to install every driver application.
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02/08/2008 11:40 AM  

Hopefully you are using the Microsoft Deployment Database to help control your deployments because if you’re not, you are missing one of the most powerful features of the Workbench. The Database has a Make and Model table that allows you to perform any type of task (e.g. add specific drivers that don't normally get installed through PNP) based on the Make and Model of the system you are deploying. This feature uses the ZTIGather.wsf to search the database and apply/override the settings you have in the customsettings.ini.

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02/08/2008 12:14 PM  

I am sorry. I do not use the database. Do you know a step-by-step document wich explain how to use this feature. Is this very complex? The drivers are forced to be installed? Or can you explain in short steps?

Thanks. Didi.

 

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02/09/2008 2:40 PM  
Are you using SCCM in conjunction with MDT
I've found that 3rd party installation was much more robust with only MDT (SMS2003 \ LTI) for some reason

i too am having problems with drivers that are newer\better then the ones that are installed (or left uninstalled)
my example is DELL 755's SM Bus Driver

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02/10/2008 1:04 PM  

Hi,

I had a similar problem with DELL Latitude D430 and D830 notebooks. The problem is that WinPE doesn't have the HDADUIO driver loaded and therefore cannot see some audio and modem PNP IDs during PNP Enumeration in ZTIDrivers.wsf.

The solution ist described in http://www.deployvista.com/Blog/tabid/70/EntryID/29/language/en-US/Default.aspx. You have to include the hdaudio.sys driver from KB888111 in WinPE. At least, this worked for me and my DELLs ;-)

kind regards,

Norman

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02/11/2008 12:29 AM  
@Or Tsemah: We use MDT ZTI with SMS 2003. I built an Vista image with our standard software to deploy. Everything works fine. Only hardwaredrivers are not installed. I will try Steve's solution.

@Norman: We try to deploy Windows Vista with WinPE 2.0 / ZTI. LTI and Windows XP runs fine with the legacy $oem$ folders.

Thanks to all!
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02/11/2008 7:50 AM  

Please let us know if you solved it,

This thing drives me nuts, and the frustrating thing is that it used to work with SMS or LTI

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02/11/2008 8:31 AM  
@Steve: I installed Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express. The I created and configured Make and Model. But where should I add drivers to this feature?
Steve wrote: "(e.g. add specific drivers that don't normally get installed through PNP) based on the Make and Model of the system you are deploying." Where? How?

Please help! I think many Administrators have the same problem!
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02/12/2008 6:23 AM  
Hallo!
I solved the problem for our environment. But not with the database. I installed the database and configured a special Driver Group for my notebook (HP nc6320). ZTIGather quered the database successfully and added this group to my computer model. But the right driver wasn´t installed!
Now my last thing I want to test was the solution of Norman. Thank you very much for this tip! And now the right driver is installed on my notebook :-))

Thanks to all of you for your help!
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02/12/2008 2:09 PM  
So, norman's suggestion did the trick ?
However, this issue happens with more then just audio drivers...
Is there a permenant solution ?
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02/15/2008 6:07 PM  
I have a similar problem with a Dell Latitude D620 and a Latitude D630.
I use MDT/LTI.
I add the drivers to the out-of-box drivers in MDT.
When I deploy XP on the D620 all drivers do get copied to the machine. But for some reason the USB, System and HDC drivers do not get installed correct. I checked the setupapi.log and there I can see that the rank of the *.inf files from the “c:\drivers” folder (made by MDT) do get a lower/better rank than the default windows pnp drivers. And the log says that windows installed the drivers from MDT. But when I check in device manager it's still Microsoft default pnp drivers. So far I solved the problem with DevCon.exe. I just call a vbs script in the custom task section in task Sequence. But is this really necessary!? Does anyone else have a better solution, or know why this happens? I am 100% sure that they are the right drivers. And there is no problem if I update them manually.

The problem with the D630 is, when I deploy Vista to this model the display driver does not get installed. MDT does not copy the driver to the machine so I can't use DevCon.exe to install it. If I try to install the driver manually there is no problem. I have checked that the “device id” is in the *.inf file. Other drivers do get installed in the same process, just not the display driver. Any ideas?
To solve the problem I am using the same approach as Dietmar did with the commandline options and add the driver as an application. But again, does anyone know why this happens?

I also had the Audio problem but I just copied Microsoft default hdaubus.inf (version 5.10.00.5010) to the Out-of-box drivers. That solved the problem for me.

Regards Brian
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